# Yield Stress\_Plastic Strain curve

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**Created:** [July 31, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332 "2022-07-31T20:50:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![PaoPao1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@PaoPao1970](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/PaoPao1970)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/1 "2022-07-31T20:50:10Z")

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Could you let me know the unit of axis of plastic strain ?

Is Max value “1” that we can input ?

 ![Yield Stress_Plastic Strain](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/1X/577fe085de7c3ef1fe06d5daf0b832fb979971a3.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/2 "2022-07-31T20:53:08Z")

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Strain is unitless but it’s often expressed in % (not in the software though). It can be higher than 1 (100%).

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/3 "2022-07-31T23:15:08Z")

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Dear FEAnalyst san

Thank you for your kindly reply!!

I would like to test material that has 0.2% endurance

Is Material Data Points(Table) ok ??

Yield stress Plastic strain  
200 0.002  
5000 1

 ![0.2% endurance](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/1X/c65b2f6799896818c7e825350cc0e4ce7d734dd9.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/4 "2022-08-01T00:23:10Z")

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The first point needs to have zero plastic strain. Then you can specify the remaining points from the stress-strain curve as you did here.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/5 "2022-08-01T10:56:48Z")

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> [@PaoPao1970](#):
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> I would like to test material that has 0.2% endurance

did you mean, it will fail at 0.2% elongation?  
CalculiX plastic material can not enter these rupture areas, only in plastic region not to further in fractures. the stiffness of element nodes is small or nearly zero at above the yield point. then it will redistribute the stress and strain around.

0.2% strain limit is not ductile ones, common metal materials have 20% elongation. however about 5% in some areas may indicate the part is starting to fails.

so, it may plasticity definition material above is not appropriates to your models. another nonlinear material type is required.

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**Author:** ![TOMIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@TOMIN](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/TOMIN)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/7 "2022-08-06T09:31:19Z")

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Did you mean plastic strain zero at yield…

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/8 "2022-08-08T02:03:33Z")

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Dear synt san,  
I am so sorry. My English is very poor.

I would like set 0.2% offset line on Prepomax like below URL

[(161) How to draw 0.2% Offset Line on a Stress-Strain graph - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpoIC_KOKd4)

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/9 "2022-08-08T03:57:32Z")

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Thank you for your reply.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/10 "2022-08-08T12:57:49Z")

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> [@PaoPao1970](#):
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> I am so sorry. My English is very poor.

me too 🙂 sometimes or frequently maybe

> [@PaoPao1970](#):
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> I would like set 0.2% offset line on Prepomax like below URL

PrePoMax tabulated input value for plastic definition use true strain-strain not engineering.

in case engineering stress-strain provided by labs directly without conversion to tabulated true stress-strain curve. you may refer to Ramberg-Osgood material input parameter using keyword editor.

btw, are the material is stainless steel? in case structural steel (e.g ship, bridge/building) there’s an approach curve recommend by code regulation.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 3:48am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/11 "2022-08-09T03:48:39Z")

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The material is stainless steel…

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/12 "2023-10-18T10:14:36Z")

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May I ask if this curve is the same to ABAQUS?  
The “Yield Stress” is actually “True Yield Stress”, which requires the following transfers.  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/c/c09f6fb585b63721b648d5e7cd4f91bef4b8cb54.png)

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/13 "2023-10-18T10:48:46Z")

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Yes, CalculiX also uses true stress. From the CalculiX User’s Manual:

> All CalculiX input (e.g. distributed loading) and output is in terms of true stress.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/14 "2023-11-07T00:00:56Z")

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Hello. I am following this topic.  
could you provide an example of a elastic-plastic input, for a simple steel or aluminum?  
Thanks.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/15 "2023-11-07T00:38:48Z")

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For steel, plasticity definition can look like this, for instance (stress in MPa):

235 —— 0  
410 —— 0.2

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/16 "2023-11-07T05:13:19Z")

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> [@Roguish](#):
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> could you provide an example of a elastic-plastic input, for a simple steel or aluminum?

i made curve approximation (grey line) for common structural steel based on several tests from references. It can be categories as mild, medium and high strength steel.

 ![truesteel1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/e/e6b9f199381e206957763d1334399e5425e755c7.png)

an approximation of coefficient depending on yield strength is defined to fit the actual curve from steel coupon test.

 ![truesteel9](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/a/a974df23a879b900624acae98fba3f1d0e30ea52.png)

above curve data points in the bracket can be used as initial input values for preliminary analysis when the actual test is not yet ready or available.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/yield-stress-plastic-strain-curve/332/17 "2023-11-07T19:07:39Z")

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THANK YOU.  
very much appreciated.
