# Rotation control doesn't work

**URL:** <https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139>\
**Category:** General Questions\
**Tags:** dynamic\
**Created:** [October 2, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139 "2023-10-02T13:08:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/1 "2023-10-02T13:08:13Z")

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I made a testing rig with two parts that are supposed to rotate 90 degrees but both of them stop at a smaller angle. Does anyone know how to fix the rotation so it fully rotates?

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**Author:** ![FEAnalyst](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/prepomax.discourse.group/feanalyst/32/688_2.png) [@FEAnalyst](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/FEAnalyst)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/2 "2023-10-02T13:56:23Z")

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How did you apply the rotation ? Can you share some screenshots or at least describe the details of your model ?

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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/3 "2023-10-02T14:28:41Z")

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![settings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/8/8477ba969452e6a3cee065448d244ab5c8c969df.png)  
This is the rig and the settings of 1 side, the other side has the same settings, except the angle has a different sign.

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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/4 "2023-10-02T14:29:37Z")

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![rig](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/9/968947c16d124a3ed2ee811ed44e28838c25f96e.png)  
This is a picture of the rig.

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**Author:** ![FEAnalyst](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/prepomax.discourse.group/feanalyst/32/688_2.png) [@FEAnalyst](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/FEAnalyst)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/5 "2023-10-02T14:33:42Z")

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I assume that those boundary conditions are applied to reference points of rigid body constraints. Is the analysis completed ? Did you set the deformation scale to “true” ?

It would be best if you could share the file but I understand that it’s not always possible.

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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/6 "2023-10-02T14:43:09Z")

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Where can I change the deformation scale?

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**Author:** ![FEAnalyst](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/prepomax.discourse.group/feanalyst/32/688_2.png) [@FEAnalyst](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/FEAnalyst)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/7 "2023-10-02T16:06:38Z")

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You can find this option here:

![scale](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/f/fe556a03e5499a35782079ac015eae89b17bb18d.png)

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**Author:** ![ANYS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/prepomax.discourse.group/anys/32/7737_2.png) [@ANYS](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/ANYS)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/8 "2023-10-02T16:35:51Z")

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1.365 rad each part in opposite direction makes an overall rotation of 156º.  
That’s a lot and I think your problem is different.

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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/9 "2023-10-02T16:37:39Z")

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Thanks! It didn’t change much in the end. To answer your previous questions, yes 2 references points were chosen with rigid body constraints. The analysis completes once I turn off NIgeom, but neither parts of the rig rotate 90 degrees. If I turn NIgeom on then the analysis fails but with results rotating up to the same angles as with NIgeom off. I am not quite sure what is going on.

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**Author:** ![ANYS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/prepomax.discourse.group/anys/32/7737_2.png) [@ANYS](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/ANYS)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/10 "2023-10-02T16:38:45Z")

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It is failing close to 70º ?¿?

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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/11 "2023-10-02T16:38:57Z")

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I am trying to close the rig. Do you think large rotations aren’t possible?

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**Author:** ![ANYS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/prepomax.discourse.group/anys/32/7737_2.png) [@ANYS](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/ANYS)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/12 "2023-10-02T16:39:55Z")

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I just posted the solution in Tips and Tricks.

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**Author:** ![am5320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@am5320](https://prepomax.discourse.group/u/am5320)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/13 "2023-10-02T16:40:05Z")

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![angle](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/prepomax/original/2X/e/e2b0b0b331566d71e128261529c1742beb76ee5a.png)  
this is the maximum angle it goes to.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://prepomax.discourse.group/t/rotation-control-doesnt-work/1139/14 "2023-10-02T17:08:09Z")

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Can you share the .pmx file ? It’s hard to say what’s going on based on those cropped screenshots.
